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Why do you think the DMC fandom reacted with such vitriol to the show, unlike other fandoms like Sonic or CV? Personally, while NDMC is not a good product in any way, not even as its own thing because it's either dull or offensive, I didn't find it that inherently worse than NCFV or Nocturne or anything related to Sonic.

Is it because the fandom is bigger? Because fans are not so starved they would eat dirt, like CV fans in 2017? Or because this format of snarky adaptations that only tangentially adapt famous games in the series is finally growing stale?

I am being sincere when I say that I think that DmC Devil May Cry gave them antibodies.

This series has been through LITERALLY the EXACT same thing before. A western produced "new continuity" that loses the heart and soul of the original games while wiping its ass with the characterization and thematic intentions of those games, and is bloated to the brim with americacentric political commentary that's so on the nose that even people who agree with it should be annoyed.

It is one to one exactly the same product. And the people who DEFENDED that game were saying the EXACT same things that the people who are sucking off the netflix show are saying. Word for word.

The body can fight off an infection more easily the second time around.

Other game franchises haven't really had that experience, not really. Castlevania had Lords of Shadow, but that wasn't... icky. In the way that Netflixvania was. You know? It was just its own thing, it wasn't an offensive selfish mockery of everything that the franchise and characters were about. Even in the way that continuity made drastic changes to Trevor/Alucard and Dracula himself, it really did feel like it was just a new take. Whereas Netflixvania felt like it was actively saying that the video games were stupid, the characters from the games were nonexistent, and what they were creating was superior in every way.

It's like a pretentious spitefulness. That's how I would describe the likes of DmC Devil May Cry and Netflix May Cry, and Netflixvania and IDW Sonic and the Paramount Halo live action show ect ect. Shlock made by narcissists who think they're creating REAL ART out of an inferior source material.

DMC is also unique I think in the fact that after DmC Devil May Cry happened, we did end up getting DMC5 later. A return to the original continuity, and it was wildly popular and successful. So there was a vindication for the OG fans thanks to the new game. So the Netflix show feels even more egregious in the face of that.

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[rupaul voice] three divas stand before me

One thing I've always enjoyed about Vergil is that the games make you like him and root for him as a character... but not because he's right. It's not because he's noble. It's not even because he's traumatized. It's because he's Dante's brother.

Vergil is kind of terrible. He's done a lot of terrible things. The game doesn't even try to dispute that. You are not supposed to see Vergil as a heroic figure. Yet we still root for him because Dante, our PoV character, roots for him. Dante loves his brother. He wants his brother to succeed. We see how Vergil's absence crushes Dante. He never truly gets over it.

To Dante, Vergil is the person you love even though sometimes you just can't stand them, and maybe despite the fact that they've hurt you, because they're so important to you that you can't imagine life without them. He is the person you watch destroy themselves over and over, knowing there's nothing you can do to stop it, and you feel a piece of yourself break every single time the cycle repeats. Even if we, as players, may not see that or feel that for Vergil (at least, not right away), it's clear that Dante does.

And I can't emphasize enough how relatable and human that experience is. I think we've all been there in one way or another with someone in our lives. If we haven't, then I'm sure we've all watched a friend or family member go through that with someone they've loved.

He really doesn't need to be anything grander than that. He's not secretly right or noble. In fact, he's dead wrong about a lot. Yet we're still on Vergil's side because when he overcomes, when he finds his peace, when he becomes the person Dante hoped he could be, then Dante finds peace as well.

And we all want a world where the people we love can find their peace, and we can find our peace with them.

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My favorite thing about Dante and Vergil is just how they constantly match each other's energy. Like I know DMC5 is a lot more explicit about how Vergil is a silly lil guy underneath the veneer of seriousness, but I wanted to highlight a few of the Vergil lines/exchanges/moments from DMC3 that demonstrate... yeah he was kinda always like this

From right before the first Vergil fight in DMC3:

Dante: You sure know how to throw a party. No food, no drinks, and the only babe just left. Vergil: My sincerest apologies, brother. I was so eager to see you I couldn't concentrate on the preparations for the bash.

I find this one especially fun because pretty much every other boss you fight in DMC (like the entire series) just gets huffy and angry and yells about annihilating Sparda or something. Vergil is probably one of the few major bosses that snarks back

2. After Vergil gets Beowulf he does the Dante thing of playing around with his new weapon

3. From right before the second Vergil fight:

Dante: It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. More importantly, I've come all this way. I'm sure you have time for one more game… right Vergil: Why not? After all we share the same blood… I'll just use more of yours to undo daddy's little spell.

Something about "daddy's little spell" is just so irreverent and funny

4. From right after the second Vergil fight:

Vergil: It is time for the clown to bow out, Arkham. Dante: Dude, the show's over!

To me it comes off like Dante's spring-boarding off of Vergil's theater metaphor that with the "show's over!" line. Vergil set him up for that one

5. This bit at the start of the Arkham fight which Vergil was NOT present for:

Dante: Dude, my father wasn't so hideous. Can't you tell by looking at me? Anyway that shape suits you better. Let's begin the main event!

Followed by this exchange midway through the fight:

Dante: Look at you, making a big dramatic entrance and stealing my spotlight. Vergil: Well... You don't possibly believe that he deserves to be our main event now do you?

Vergil wasn't exactly present for Dante's "let's begin the main event!" line, which means he just came up with the same thing completely independently? That, or he was watching and just decided to wait for the most dramatic possible moment to jump in. Either way, it adds silly lil guy points (either for being just like his brother or for timing a dramatic entrance)

6. Same fight scene, the finger waggle Vergil does as he says "You should come to realize you cannot control the power of Sparda."

7. The classic:

But also the way Vergil immediately knows exactly what Dante is talking about when he says "Remember what we used to say?" and he smiles about it

It’s very interesting and indicative that when fans of the DMC gameverse criticize the netflix show, they’ll go on multi-paragraph posts on why they loved the original franchise and why the netflix show is a cheap insult to it.

But the all the netflix defenders got is: “The characters are hot and the fight scenes are cool! Stop being such a hater sheesh 😒” I feel bad for the furries that got into the netflix show because of the rabbit tbh.

This is an issue that has been going on not just for DMC, but for many other pieces of media. How many times have we heard that argument? "Don't be a hater, if you don't like it just don't watch", this isn't how things work. Yes, I agree there's no reason to jump at people who have enjoyed something and tell them that they're stupid for doing it — but it's thanks to criticism that nowadays the world isn't the exact same way it was before.

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"If you don't like it don't watch, you're being a hater" is nothing but the equivalent in media for "do not fight for your rights, do not question what you're given nor put into", an argument fascists and dictators use. Do these people think that we would be where we are now if people hadn't voiced their complains? Being a comformist has its consequences, and those consequences are being shown.

Sure, this is just a netflix series, not the removal of basic human rights, but that doesn't make it any less concerning: accepting any product that is given to you regardless of how good or bad is, is nothing more than a branch of that bigger problem. "It's better than having nothing" so you would rather eat raw meat that could damage you rather than starve? I'm sorry, but I would not. I'm just the average person on planet Earth and I deserve to be treated with the same respect as the guy who has too much money on his hands. You can't be a comformist and go "at least we've got crumbs!", no, you're not supposed to get crumbs, you're supposed to be given the piece of bread on the table like everyone else.

Now, with that said since this ask is about DMC, let's go back to that:

Devil May Cry isn't a perfect saga. It had its ups and downs. But, and we have to make this clear, it's thanks to the people who voiced their complains about those downs that we were given proper content as costumers. Sure, Itsuno may have been annoyed himself and wanted a proper game to follow Kamiya's own, but do you really think the company would have given him the necessary time and resources for DMC3 to happen if people hadn't voiced their displeasure with DMC2? No, they're a company, not an indie developer nothing speaks more to them than money. If people had accepted DMC2 anyways because "it was better than having no sequel" they wouldn't have given the necessary things to make DMC3 happen, because they would have seen that unfinished games and lack of attention and consideration would give them benefits anyways.

Why are people right now voicing their annoyance with (mainly Nintendo's) current game prices? Because if we don't, then the only ones allowed to play them will be the 4 ones around there that can afford them. And that's because, regardless of what the majority says, if there's people willing to pay for such an insulting price, they won't bother to listen. "I'm gonna buy it anyways because I'm a fanboy" what you're being is incredibly comformist. "It is what it is" has done a lot of damage to people's mentality. Don't get me wrong, companies know about this, so the moment people doubt about those prices, they will add 'limited edition' to them, so everyone panics, thinking they're gonna miss on this precious product if they don't buy it now, regardless of the price.

We humans don't act by instict nowadays, and that's why we're so easy to manipulate. "You're gonna miss on this" or "your favorite piece of media will have nothing else if you don't accept this" or "you're being ungrateful, at least you got something".

I don't want 'something', I don't want 'the bare minimum', I want to be given the same worth I am giving those people for such a product. You want 90€ for a game? Sure, as long as it is worth them. Because, no, the 10th MarioKart is not worth that money.

There's a reason why handmade products cost more than the ones from a factory. They take more time, more effort, more research, more care... And more passion.

Netflix is a company. They don't care if you liked their content or not, as long as you pay — that's why series such as Devil May Cry have been splitted into two. Because, no, those 8 episodes were not season 1. It's just been a week, this has been planned since the start, it's not the haters' fault that the next season was announced. Season 2 is also season 1, they simply divived them so they would get people to watch the first half with hype, regardless of how less people watch the second half due to the awful job of the showrunner and writers. They are businessmen before anything else, they knew everyone, haters or defenders, would be watching at day 1 due to the amount of hype (and lies) built around the series. They don't care if you're gonna watch season 2 or not — you already gave them their money; they already have a bunch of people defending the series SIMPLY to be against those who did not like it; they already have a lot of people who simply want to entertain themselves and not engage with said piece of media... Why should they care about it being something done with the minimum effort?

"It's not a canon universe" that's not the point, not at all — but what am I supposed to expect from people who defend a series that is representing a certain group of people as demons, huh? The REAL issue is HOW these characters have been changed:

"It's an AU" why, though? Why would you want to make them swap roles? This isn't a Dante and Vergil situation in which people come up with interesting concepts regarding their trauma and experiences, their own personalities and behavior — no, this isn't that. This is Shankar seeing Sparda, a character that was written as someone who gave up on his own power to join humanity; and Mundus, a character who would kill anyone who interacted with Sparda simply because he sided with the weak. Is it fiction? Yes. Does it affect reality? Well... Isn't this showrunner a Trump supporter? I wonder why, huh.

This guy saw Lady, a girl who and killed her own father for the sake of everyone else. A girl who lived with guilt the rest of her life because she has killed her father. A girl who put others above herself in commiting an act such as murder, patricide, with her bare hands. a girl still compassionate enough to cry such a horrible man's death.

And what has Shankar turned her into? A genocidal, racist cop. Shankar saw a girl who cried for a man who deserved nothing but to disappear — and he thought she was better as a sociopathic soldier.

Vergil, a boy who despite believing all his life due to his traumatic experiences that humans were miserable weak creatures, he never hated them. Despite being blinded by trauma for decades — he never hated humanity.

What did Shankar see in him? A man who would side with the responsible of his family's death and disappearance.

"It's an AU" or "the game's stories were never good anyways" or "you people are just haters".

Haters... So you are against people voicing their opinion? "No, I just don't want you throwing it at me." No one's throwing anything at you, not real critics, at least, they're posting it in their OWN accounts. "But I still see it." What are the silence and block buttons for? "But you just don't want us having fun." We just don't want you to defend a product made my an egocentric Trump supporter. What? Being a hater of Christianity now makes you automatically a defender of the poor? I never knew you guys were this naive... Or dumb.

Whenever it's a blue checkmark on Twitter... Yes, I do wonder how much you were paid to defend this shitshow. But whenever it isn't — why? Why are you waisting your energy? Sure, go ahead and enjoy the show. Let people speak their minds, just ignore them if you're such a boring person to have no taste and consume any piece of media that is shoven into your throat simply because "the animation is cool." It's... It's an animated series, isn't that the bare minimum?

"I don't condone the showrunner's behavior, I only like the series." Do you not see how this was written? Is your brain really that rotten? Have you spent that much time on TikTok with brainrot one-minute videos, that you've forgotten how it feels to be able to think by yourself? You can't despise the showrunner's behavior and support his product, do you think he's gonna care about your ideology, as long as you consume the product of his narcissism and egocentrism?

I know many examples of people with too much money on their hands to pay for others to speak well of them, be it articles, or news, or companies, or individuals... (if anyone's intrigued, or doesn't believe me, DM me, i don't mind giving another example). We live in a capitalist society, for the love of god, NO review from 'professionals' is genuine. Do you really believe in Rotten Tomatoes? The page that had a 82% on Blonde when it first aired, and after time and discussions passed, now it has a 50%?

7.70 out of 10, and you give it a 96%? Then, 3.3 out of 5, and you give it a 61%? That 3.3 out of 5 comes from people not being able to rate something properly with numbers, it's a mix of 0/5 reviews and 5/5 reviews, it's not a fair number. The single negative critique of te 'critics' talks about how the series isn't really a homage to the original games has most likely not been read. Neither the rest — but who cares, most are positive, right? That's our nowadays issue. "I'm not reading all that" or "yapping" in our culture has done a lot of damage to critical thinking, and people acting as individuals.

If you understand Spanish well, I recommend this video in particular about reviews, and how all of them are fake, be them paid or not. Please, it's not a waste of time at all.

... About that last part, I do not feel that bad for the ones who got into it because of the rabbit. It's again, the same thing: so, regardless of how bad a series was, you find the fucking furry hot, so you don't care and praise the product anyways. You find a single thing of it good, and that already makes it the Holy Grail for you.

I don't think we have a solution for this. Not anymore, with how putrid our brains are nowadays. After all, it's easier to attack the people who demand a quality product, than the rich guy behind said product, isn't it?

quick little rant thingy because DMC reddit just pissed me off

I hate how so many people in the DMC fandom fall for Dante's party guy shtick and genuinely believe him to be as dumb as a rock . For example an argument i see often for this is his inability pay off his debts/rant . People believe he's simply too dumb to manage any money when in reality it's stemmed from the fact that he has little to no consideration for his well being and puts others' needs before his,rather than his own lack of intelligence. Like Grue's daughters,whom he sends money to support them--or Enzo,his ex middleman. Even in the anime he goes on his way to save his client's brother,without getting proper payment.

Other than that,again in the anime he proves himself to be a worthy-occult detective and how great he can be at reading people. His office also has a decent amount of books lying around showing that yes,he does read and value knowledge

Not saying he's smartest out there,but he is in no way as stupid as people make him out to be.

I love dante from the hit video game series devil may cry because he is somehow both the coolest motherfucker in the room but also a complete loser. he has soloed some of the most powerful beings in existence. he is constantly surrounded by beautiful women and yet he gets with none of them. he and his twin brother both suffer from a chronic case of The Cain Instinct. he rides around on a demon-powered motorcycle. his favorite pastimes are kicking ass and taking names, and also dance dance revolution. he has “been stabbed and jabbed by many things over the years.” he is obsessed with strawberry sundaes. he is constantly broke as shit because he keeps giving away his money to people who’ve lost their homes to demon attacks, but also because he refuses to eat anything except for pizza and flakes out on jobs because he got bored. he fist-fought his nephew in the vatican. he truly is the character of all time.

Every now and then, I remember that people don't know how much of a game changer (no pun intended) the first Devil May Cry was. Namely in the action genre and combat-driven games. I remember that before Devil May Cry, combat in games weren't really all that focused on combos and skill; at least not in the way the franchise does it. Even games like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter, there wasn't anything quite like Devil May Cry.

There's a reason why a lot of games that follow that combat style are referred to as "Devil May Cry clones" or "uses the combat style of Devil May Cry". A lot of games wouldn't really be a thing if Devil May Cry didn't happen. God of War. That weird Jack Skellington game. Bayonetta. Ultraviolet. Darksiders. Ninja Gaiden. Nier: Automata.

Hell, even Capcom has used that combat system in their OTHER games. Like Okami, for example.

Don't know where I'm going with this. Just gushing at how Devil May Cry changed the game (lol)

It is sad but true that historical innovations become less appreciated over time. TV Tropes has a page for "Seinfeld is unfunny" to document this trend. We don't appreciate how hard the Forty-Niners had it because we can fly to California in an afternoon and drive around Beverly Hills today.

Devil May Cry started its life as a RESIDENT EVIL game. Which is why the first game had such a dark gothic foreboding atmosphere. Hideki Kamiya was inspired by a game bug in Onimusha, another Capcom game, where they were able to juggle enemies in the air with sword attacks indefinitely. That sort of gameplay didn't fit with the style of game they wanted Onimusha to be, but Kamiya liked that concept so much that he wanted to incorporate it into an intentional element of his own game. Eventually the game they were developing deviated so much from the spirit of Resident Evil, becoming so action oriented, that it was decided that they should divorce the project from any association with Resident Evil and let it be its own thing. (How times change, huh?)

Devil May Cry literally created the character action genre. There was NOTHING before Devil May Cry that was anything like it. "Oh there were hack and slashes before DMC" no dude, calling DMC a hack and slash is like calling What Remains of Edith Finch a First Person Shooter. It's not the same thing and you know it. There was nothing like Devil May Cry before Devil May Cry. And it was such an innovation that an entire genre was born, games that took direct inspiration from Devil May Cry and built upon its foundations.

Now, sadly, because of how much progress there's been, people go back and play the original DMC1 and it feels "clunky" in comparison. It has fixed camera angles (because it was originally a Resident Evil game) which has an impact on move inputs being relative to camera direction, and that doesn't feel natural to what people expect from the genre based on modern standards. It only has two melee weapons, and the melee attacks are based on a one button input. There's no "special moves." The game is limited by memory to only allowing one enemy type in a room at a time so you'll never see mix and match encounters. THERE'S SWIMMING LEVELS!!!

People consider DMC1 "skippable" because it "hasn't aged well." The concept of a game "not aging well" disgusts me to my core tbh. The game is exactly the same as the day it came out. It's the world that has aged around it. Better games have come out since Devil May Cry, but they only EXIST because of Devil May Cry. There would be no Bayonetta or God Hand or Wonderful 101 without Devil May Cry. It is the root from which an entire genre sprang up. Of course they didn't get it perfect the first time, they didn't even know what they were doing.

But sadly video games don't really get respected as an art form. People judge them based purely off some kind of nebulous constantly shifting "objective standard" of pure entertainment, and if a game doesn't measure up then it isn't worth wasting time with. I think media should be appreciated in the context of when it was released. And DMC1s historical importance and everything it innovated relative to what its contemporaries were doing in 2001 deserves to be appreciated.

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Devil May Cry (2007)

Devil May Cry (2007)

The major reason Dante and Vergil's rivalry works better than almost any other take on the trope is because the games are totally self aware about how dumb and immature the whole trope is and they lean way the hell into it. Like yeah, there's real stakes, turmoil and emotional wounds between them that drive their eternal conflict but at the same time it's pretty obvious that the real reason they fight all the time is because they're both just the biggest goddamn children on the planet.

It really is just playground bickering elevated to apocalyptic proportions by sheer virtue of them both being demigods.

Exploring the mechposting tag lately because of Angry Lesbians in Mechs webnovel that I am currently writing, and:

Okay, yes, sure, pilot/handler pairs, but I don’t want the psychosexual submissive drooling attack dog/manipulative abuser dynamic. That’s been covered to the moon and back. Give me colleagues. Give me equals. Give me two devastatingly competent adults with a dynamic that’s as complicated, full, nuanced as each half of the pair themselves. Give me a variety of relationship tones - mentor/student, sibling/sibling, frienemies, embittered rivals, coldly efficient coworkers, platonic but deeply entangled teammates, dancer/choreographer, artist/muse, co-captains, life partners, all against the same backdrop of 24/7 high-octane, necessarily intimate coordination. Give me something new.

More power to those who appreciate the popular tropes, but there’s tons of potential here that I think stands to be more deeply explored.

Making a booklet about androids for one of my classes

basically "what if we had anatomy books but for androids?"

my teacher seems to like it which is cool i'll get a decent grade i hope

also fun fact this booklet will be named "medical mechanica" as a little nod to one of my favorite anime of all time FLCL!

TAKE TO THE SKIES Jetheads from the Britonica Alliance, featured in my narrative artbook TANKHEAD. Available for preorder now from the UDON Entertainment online store.

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Also, just saying, if you've only seen trigun stampede (or trigun 98 for that matter) you are DEEPLY missing out on the manga's artstyle. it is pure visual ecstacy. If the words "Biomechanical" and "Angellic" mean anything to you on an aesthetic level, you with be frothing at the mouth at least once every few chapters.

Here's a collection of some of my favourite panels.

Thank you and goodnight