hey wait a sec
Result of brain mixing Baldur's Gate 3 playing with the different hcs about the Radiance once representing hope/then corrupted (I say many, I mean Ashe), ask nothing
You don't get it the more I think about it the more these two are literally the same goddamn character in different circumstances and I'm about to list the reasons I know this.
Ok let's get the obvious out of the way. Both the Pale King and The Radiance are described as "a light" by the seer, which already implies a connection. (Terms like The Old Light for Radiance and Beacon for Pale King allude to this as well) This could be a physical thing, but it also alludes to the type of power these two hold: both of them are capable of affecting bugs' consciousness.
The Pale King gave them sentience and The Radiance made the Infection. It's unknown whether the Moth Tribe had sentience before the Pale King but considering they were able to harness Essence for themselves it seems likely. Either way the Radiance probably gave them some kind of consciousness before the Pale King showed up.
Ok so PK may have been the one to say the famous line but it 100% applies to The Radiance as well. Her one motivation is to be remembered, presumably out of self-preservation. To accomplish this she entered bugs' dreams and placed them under a hivemind. Not something we'd call ethical, but hey, neither is killing thousands of your own children to find one with no mind and seal it in a temple.
If we interpret Pale King's intentions as wanting to preserve his kingdom as opposed to keeping more bugs from being infected then he also falls into a similar mentality.
Hollow Knight's biggest theme in general is "all things must come to an end eventually", and The Radiance and the Pale King both cause suffering trying to counter that. One wanting to preserve her memory, the other his kingdom.
The fuckin horn thingies
Both of these headpieces look like crowns for obvious reasons, but The Radiance's "crown" is a lot smaller, alluding to her status as a fallen deity. (This doesn't mean anything in-universe since thanks to the statue in Crystal Peaks we know she always looked like this, but it's an interesting design choice)
If you wanna look deeper the colors between their eyes and face are inverted
PK gives bugs a mind. Radiance takes it away. They have the same goal and the same power but do the exact opposite. So while PK has a lighter face and darker eyes Radi has a darker face and lighter eyes. This is something they share with the bugs whose minds they've altered; conscious bugs have dark eyes while infected bugs have orange pupils.
I know these details were probably not that deep upon conception but on the off chance they were I wanted to bring them up because they cool.
Anyway in conclusion we have
Similar mind powers
Similar symbolism
Similar desires
Similar "ends justify the means" mentality
We don't get much in the way of actual characterization since we only get like 4 lines out of each of them but their motives and actions seem too similar to not notice.
hi please. Vote Hrimm. Hrimm is the sum of basically all the boss lore in Hallownest. Hornet’s and Grimm’s and Zote’s and God Tamer’s and Quirrel’s stories and the stories of every other boss and a few non-bosses. Pure Vessel is just Pure Vessel. Yes, they are tragic. Yes, they are my fave too. But this is pure vessel vs all the rest of Hallownest. Vote Hrimm and friends, vote for your obscure HK blorbo.
Yes, you heard me right. After some preparation, Hrimm has finally achieved their final form and THIS WEEK they will fight the Pure Vessel itself. This is the poll that will determine the true winner, so cast your vote wisely. Propaganda for both sides and people without context are free to vote, give it your all.
Now, we present to you:
The Massive Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful Radiant Broken False Fluke Mantis Oblobble Hive Parent Tamer Collector Watcher Traitor Kin Crystal and Soul Paint-Nailmaster Sage Prince Champion Hogri- tiso- marmuute- xero- kosk HuGalienorb, the Great Mind (+ friends)
Random idea: IF the Dreamers are still alive in the real world, then you should SEE them in Godhome. AND get bonuses for keeping them alive.
Team Cherry could totally pull this off as it's still the Dream Realm AND the Godseekers are calling just about everyone there.
Now, I am not saying that we should get Dreamer Boss fights (though that would be cool even if impossible to pull off if you know the original concept of the Dreamers), but what about finding a secret room and BOOM! The Dreamers are there.
Now, finding the Dreamers would be cool and all, as you get extra dialogue with all three and get to see everyone's character (especially you Lurien). But what if they would give you boosts and insights into the Boss Fights you are about to do?
What if Lurien could analyze the Boss fight weaknesses, specifically the glitches and loopholes in them such as False Knight's/Failed Champion's cheat or White Defender's cheat? What if Monomon ran tests in the background to help you figure out how to get the Lifeblood seeds, not to mention help you get them? What if Herrah would randomly help you in battle? Though I would not be opposed to her taking care of Godseeker for me due to all the times Godseeker calls Little Knight a worm as in the earthworm.
And finally, when you reach the final bosses in Pantheon of Hallownest, the Dreamers actively help you during the final bosses fights, each one taking turns (depending on lore or character) until all three help you take on Absolute Radiance. Say goodby to Fall Damage! Also, the idea of Monomon launching an explosive at the Radiance's face looks so lovely.
And of course, the ending cutscene where all three Dreamers wake up and the Hollow Knight is freed to a world without an Infection...please?????? Canonically, the Godhome ending and cutscene STILL play if the Dreamers are alive, but we don't SEE the Dreamers waking up. So please can we see them? Can we see all the hugs?
Anyway-what do you all think?
Do you think Team Cherry or any community modders could pull this idea off? If so, would you play it?
Hallownest became one giant mess ever since Radi was gone, I blame the Tree /j
I cannot listen to the Sealed Vessel theme without feeling depressed, this Poor innocent Vessel and all the suffering it had to endure all because of a selfish king...
Wyrm offers Kingdom in hopes of getting Moth Wife (she succeeds plus avoid Infection fiasco entirely)
Wyrm and Moth make Ugly Myrm Babies (5 in total, only 3 pictured)
2nd Oldest Child likes to disobey, gets injured because of it, smh just listen to your Moth-er!
So yeah, a small AU better known as Other!Hallownest, Basically the infection was avoided and The Wyrm never got with her Tree Wife. Unfortunately we also don't get Hornet in this as he was only Born because Herrah made a deal with the Wyrm related to sealing the Radiance.... And I don't think Peakay would want to seal away her Wife
Twitter liked this so Tumblr can have Fat Moth Mommy and her small Wife as well.
Disclaimer : Pale King's Canon doesn't apply to Peakay, unlike him she didn't piss off her Radiance she's even married to this Moth
Bad ending where you kill poor Radiant Hollow's Moth Mother in the Pantheon and so they just grief while clutching a lone feather, all while refusing to leave the statue
Please read from right to left, first attempt making a lineless comic. It's from a small alt Timeline and sorry for my bad hand writing I use text for a reason normally
doesn’t exaaaactly fit them, but here.
MY WIFE. NOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀
brkoen inside🖤🖤
Reference under cut...
holy shit she is so curly & fluffy & i love this so much 🧡💛🤍💛🧡
Flat earth? Nah gonna make a flat sun though
Improvement of me art (click for better quality)
Pale King - Finished during march
Radiance - Finished this morning
I also decided to add the artwork of all ye bitch ass gods (both of whom I adore, Radiance a little more, okay a lot more) looked like before I rendered 'em.
Bonus last bugs! Remakes of unfortunate ones that were made at the very beginning and some i don't like how they originally came out
All HK Gijinkas here!
Taking on a God
save me characters doing fucked up things out of self-preservation…..characters doing fucked up things out of self-preservation save me………..
Hollow Knight in a nutshell
Audio source
This is what happened in Hollow Knight right?
Figuring out how to draw the Pale King and it just quickly devolved into memes
My best friend posted a fic and it’s sooooo COOOOL ooooo you wanna read it so baaad ooooOOoOooOoOoo
Hey there! Do you like Hollow Knight and also when women who are also bugs are in love?
You should read the canon divergence fic I'm working on right now (please)
I'm proud of it, and I'm really determined to finish it! I think it's a fun lil concept and I'll be happy to have a finished project at the end of this
So if that sounds up your alley please give it a shot!
some traditional mostly hollow knight drawings feat. my smallass hand (hand reveal how exiting)
edit: for clearification, my hand is not bleeding, math is just boring and its currently very cold here and i was outside for around 25 minutes without gloves which caused my hand to get crusty which caused some weird lines to appear on my hand (they're now gone, i think it was just an effect from the cold) and i decided to draw over them with my red pen.
this is what math does to me.
Pale King: I am the Pale King, guardian of the bugs!
White Lady: The Radiance quivers before him!
Pale King at the sun: FUCK OFF!
It needed to be drawn
I don't specially think the gods of Hallownest truly have a voice. I think that they use the sound/voices of their followers.
When you hear a god (pk, radiance, wl) you do not hear a singular voice as one would expect but multiple (all of their followers voices whether they are young, old, male, female, or in very rare occasions, dead). If a god's "speech" is strong, booming, present it means that they have a great number of devout in which they can draw multiple voices from ( a god can choose whose voice they are taking ). Ofc this process has an effect on the devout, when the divinity uses their voice often/to much/with to much intensity, their worshipers will most likely have a sour throat or a raspy voice.
For exemple; the Radiance used hers a lot . She basically screamed in armory with her followers and it had repercussions, the moths had very sour throats and raspy or distorted voice ( it showed in Hallonest's prime and in the game event) . When she was forgotten she could barely talk, her speech was only a small pained whisper. But when the infection began her screeches were heard again (through the infected) more violent and angry then ever.
The Pale King does not use his voice very often, he cared a little bit more about his subjects well being than the Radiance (he doesn't really need to talk to be understood, a simple look of the eye or flick of the claw will make someone seize the order/want/intentions) this ensue in the citysen of Hallownest having clear and define voices.
The white lady, her, only uses the voice of trusted friends and ladies in waiting, like her knight Dryya, Marmu and others...
(And these trusted friends get showered with honey treats for their throats). She mostly uses female speech as she prefers how it sounds..
I also think that a gods voice can take some what of a physical form .
Like, golden light would come out of radi's mouth when she talks.
It would look like that
PK's speech would literally float in the air
Exactly like that !
And WL would have flowers come out of her mouth like that one brothers Grimm tale witch I CAN NOT remember the name of... (it was sm like "toads and diamonds")
I don't specially think the gods of Hallownest truly have a voice. I think that they use the sound/voices of their followers.
When you hear a god (pk, radiance, wl) you do not hear a singular voice as one would expect but multiple (all of their followers voices whether they are young, old, male, female, or in very rare occasions, dead). If a god's "speech" is strong, booming, present it means that they have a great number of devout in which they can draw multiple voices from ( a god can choose whose voice they are taking ). Ofc this process has an effect on the devout, when the divinity uses their voice often/to much/with to much intensity, their worshipers will most likely have a sour throat or a raspy voice.
For exemple; the Radiance used hers a lot . She basically screamed in armory with her followers and it had repercussions, the moths had very sour throats and raspy or distorted voice ( it showed in Hallonest's prime and in the game event) . When she was forgotten she could barely talk, her speech was only a small pained whisper. But when the infection began her screeches were heard again (through the infected) more violent and angry then ever.
The Pale King does not use his voice very often, he cared a little bit more about his subjects well being than the Radiance (he doesn't really need to talk to be understood, a simple look of the eye or flick of the claw will make someone seize the order/want/intentions) this ensue in the citysen of Hallownest having clear and define voices.
The white lady, her, only uses the voice of trusted friends and ladies in waiting, like her knight Dryya, Marmu and others...
(And these trusted friends get showered with honey treats for their throats). She mostly uses female speech as she prefers how it sounds..
I also think that a gods voice can take some what of a physical form .
Like, golden light would come out of radi's mouth when she talks.
It would look like that
PK's speech would literally float in the air
Exactly like that !
And WL would have flowers come out of her mouth like that one brothers Grimm tale witch I CAN NOT remember the name of... (it was sm like "toads and diamonds")
Uuuuuh...
here...
Have some pride flags 🏳️🌈
feel free to use them
au: free therapy in the mindscape—they find they have more in common than not and become each others' uncertified therapists
also obligatory outro where they go to the beach and jump like this
original idea by yuubi! (linked because tagging wasn't working for some reason) image under the cut